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Clay Thompson explains why Arizona tribes don't offer roulette or craps at their gaming facilities:

In 1999, the Governor of California negotiated gaming compacts with many of California's federally recognized Indian Tribes. As part of these Tribal-state negotiations, house-banked card games were regulated, but certain games such as craps, roulette, and dice-games based on chance remained prohibited under the state constitution and laws. The real reason you came upon this form of craps is that California law prohibits casino game outcomes from being determined by dice (craps). Indian casinos must abide by those same regulations. Foxwoods casino layout map.

Back in the early 1990s – which is a pretty long view for Arizona – the state signed its first gaming compacts with Indian reservations. As you might recall or might imagine, there was quite a bit of huffing and puffing about this from various opponents, including predictions of moral turpitude, widespread crime, slow dancing, gum-chewing and a loss of journalistic integrity. As it turned out, the main thing that happened was that lots of people went to the reservations to play the slots and life on the reservations was improved by the inflow of all that money. In 2002, voters approved a set of new rules for Indian casinos that permitted table games such as blackjack and poker, but not roulette or craps. I guess they thought that would be just a bit much.
Get the Story:
Clay Thompson: Which games at Indian casinos? It's a roll of the dice (The Arizona Republic 4/8)
jmurillo74
I live in California, our Indian casinos don't alow dice to determine the outcome, they use cards or have some type of video version of craps. Anyway, are Indian casinos in other states the same as California, or do they have traditional style craps games. By the way I refuse to play craps here in California.
SanchoPanza

I live in California, our Indian casinos don't alow dice to determine the outcome, they use cards or have some type of video version of craps.


It isn't the tribes. It's the state.
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Anyway, are Indian casinos in other states the same as California, or do they have traditional style craps games.


You can tell by the discussions here about Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods, among others, that almost all others use real dice.
DJTeddyBear
That rule is only in California and is not specific to Indian casinos.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ ————————————————————————————————————— Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
klimate10
Actually, I just found something out that may change my mind about card craps (I used to live in california and refused to play card craps). Card craps is totally beatable!! I may never play craps with dice again.
But to answer your question, yes, other states use dice at their indian casinos. I posted a review about a week back about my craps experience at an Indian casino.
My days playing craps with dice are probably over!!!
DJTeddyBear
You should be aware that there are several different types of card craps. Only some of them are countable. And whether any is 'beatable' is still open to debate.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ ————————————————————————————————————— Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
jmurillo74
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It isn't the tribes. It's the state.
You can tell by the discussions here about Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods, among others, that almost all others use real dice.


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I kind of figured that, typical California politician knowing what is in my best interest. I also had a feeling card craps was unique to California, aren't those casinos in Conneticut
klimate10
Go to discountgambling.net.
There is a section on counting card craps.
slackyhacky

Slot doddendael binnenweg ewijk. Go to discountgambling.net.
There is a section on counting card craps.


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Clay Thompson explains why Arizona tribes don't offer roulette or craps at their gaming facilities:

In 1999, the Governor of California negotiated gaming compacts with many of California's federally recognized Indian Tribes. As part of these Tribal-state negotiations, house-banked card games were regulated, but certain games such as craps, roulette, and dice-games based on chance remained prohibited under the state constitution and laws. The real reason you came upon this form of craps is that California law prohibits casino game outcomes from being determined by dice (craps). Indian casinos must abide by those same regulations. Foxwoods casino layout map.

Back in the early 1990s – which is a pretty long view for Arizona – the state signed its first gaming compacts with Indian reservations. As you might recall or might imagine, there was quite a bit of huffing and puffing about this from various opponents, including predictions of moral turpitude, widespread crime, slow dancing, gum-chewing and a loss of journalistic integrity. As it turned out, the main thing that happened was that lots of people went to the reservations to play the slots and life on the reservations was improved by the inflow of all that money. In 2002, voters approved a set of new rules for Indian casinos that permitted table games such as blackjack and poker, but not roulette or craps. I guess they thought that would be just a bit much.
Get the Story:
Clay Thompson: Which games at Indian casinos? It's a roll of the dice (The Arizona Republic 4/8)
jmurillo74
I live in California, our Indian casinos don't alow dice to determine the outcome, they use cards or have some type of video version of craps. Anyway, are Indian casinos in other states the same as California, or do they have traditional style craps games. By the way I refuse to play craps here in California.
SanchoPanza

I live in California, our Indian casinos don't alow dice to determine the outcome, they use cards or have some type of video version of craps.


It isn't the tribes. It's the state.
Quote:

Anyway, are Indian casinos in other states the same as California, or do they have traditional style craps games.


You can tell by the discussions here about Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods, among others, that almost all others use real dice.
DJTeddyBear
That rule is only in California and is not specific to Indian casinos.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ ————————————————————————————————————— Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
klimate10
Actually, I just found something out that may change my mind about card craps (I used to live in california and refused to play card craps). Card craps is totally beatable!! I may never play craps with dice again.
But to answer your question, yes, other states use dice at their indian casinos. I posted a review about a week back about my craps experience at an Indian casino.
My days playing craps with dice are probably over!!!
DJTeddyBear
You should be aware that there are several different types of card craps. Only some of them are countable. And whether any is 'beatable' is still open to debate.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ ————————————————————————————————————— Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
jmurillo74

Why No Craps At Indian Casinos Play

It isn't the tribes. It's the state.
You can tell by the discussions here about Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods, among others, that almost all others use real dice.


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I kind of figured that, typical California politician knowing what is in my best interest. I also had a feeling card craps was unique to California, aren't those casinos in Conneticut
klimate10
Go to discountgambling.net.
There is a section on counting card craps.
slackyhacky

Slot doddendael binnenweg ewijk. Go to discountgambling.net.
There is a section on counting card craps.


Last time I played at Viejas, it had a continuous card shuffler I thought. Doesn't this invalidate card counting?
slackyhacky

Go to discountgambling.net.
There is a section on counting card craps.


Oh never mind - I read more about it. Cool.

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klimate10
yeah, slacky, that's what I thought.
Who knew you could count a CSM. This is almost too good to be true.




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